all owners should check the roof at the rear sliding doors where the black rubber strip goes along the roof from front to rear of cars for cracks at the seams!!! if you don't look you will never know until water starts to leak in. dodge should issue a recall for this problem. also please file a report/complaint with the national highway saftey board, all of us together will help get this problem/defect repaired right. please let me know if others have this issue. i have done my own investigation and found many grand caravans with the same defect. Remember this dodge cost us 23,000 to 40,000 brand new!!!